"Thirty-five years," he says, nodding. His fingers find the 86 at his neck again and he laughs a little, then finishes off his beer. "It's crazy, right? So much has changed and nothing has changed all at the same time."

People are still more or less the same. There's more acceptance in a lot of ways, people who are kinder and generally better, but there are still assholes and bullies. They're just assholes and bullies about different things than they used to be.

"Weed is legal, music is totally different, but people still worry about the same things. They still want the same things."